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Critics at Large | The New Yorker

The Truth of Toni Morrison

Critics at Large | The New Yorker

The New Yorker

Society & Culture

4.4678 Ratings

🗓️ 19 February 2026

⏱️ 53 minutes

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Summary

Toni Morrison was many things in her lifetime—Nobel laureate, renowned author, Princeton professor, and generous mentor to young writers. Her appeal translated seamlessly to the internet, where old interview clips still bubble up regularly on social media, reminding us of her sharp wit and commanding presence. But, as Namwali Serpell argues in a new book of essays, “On Morrison,” this undeniable star persona risks eclipsing the genius—and complexity—of the eleven novels she wrote. On this episode of Critics at Large, Vinson Cunningham, Naomi Fry, and Alexandra Schwartz dive back into these works to rediscover the writer as she was on the page. The hosts discuss Morrison’s début novel, “The Bluest Eye”; “Beloved,” which is widely regarded as her masterpiece; and “Jazz,” the experimental 1992 novel believed to be her personal favorite. Throughout her career, she insisted on writing flawed, dynamic characters rather than paragons of virtue. “The Morrison project is to put Black life, and particularly the lives of Black women, at the very center of literature—but to do it in a way that’s true to character and to human experience,” Schwartz says. “The people she’s writing about are damaged, are greedy, are jealous, are sad . . . and also are generous, and loving, and hurt and trying to heal.”

Read, watch, and listen with the critics:

On Morrison,” by Namwali Serpell
Toni Morrison, the Teacher,” by Vinson Cunningham (The New Yorker)
The Bluest Eye,” by Toni Morrison
Song of Solomon,” by Toni Morrison
Toni Morrison and the Ghosts in the House,” by Hilton Als (The New Yorker)
Jazz,” by Toni Morrison
Beloved,” by Toni Morrison
Sula,” by Toni Morrison
Black Writers in Praise of Toni Morrison” (The New York Times)
The Blue Period: Black Writing in the Early Cold War,” by Jesse McCarthy
Monuments at MOCA and the Brick
Language as Liberation,” by Toni Morrison

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0:00.0

This is Critics at Large, a podcast from the New Yorker.

0:09.1

I'm Vincent Cunningham.

0:10.1

I'm Alex Schwartz.

0:11.3

And I'm Nomi Fry.

0:12.6

Each week on this show, we make sense of what's happening in the culture right now and how we got here.

0:18.4

Hello, friends.

0:19.4

Hello.

0:20.3

What's up? Hello to my fellow critics. Hello to the listeners.

0:25.1

Today is kind of special. Every once in a while, we do this thing where we devote a whole episode

0:30.9

to the work of a single artist. We've talked about Jane Austen. We've talked about Martin Scorsese.

0:38.0

We've talked about Miyazaki.

0:40.1

These are really people whose influence on the culture is so large.

0:43.9

It's so significant and who are so beloved.

0:46.5

You know, we really felt like we needed a whole show to do each of them justice.

0:52.2

Today is another one of those examples. We are going to be talking about

0:58.4

Tony Morrison. Morrison wrote 11 novels, starting with the bluest eye, also Sula, Song of Solomon,

1:06.2

beloved, all of them massive and important and recognized, many accolades. But I wanted to turn to

1:15.1

you guys. Why did you want to do this episode and why now? Well, we're close to Tony Morrison's

1:23.6

birthday on the 18th of this month, February, she would have been 95 years old.

1:29.4

There's a new book of essays about her work in terms of its substance, but also its, I don't know, style and form called On Morrison by Nam Wally-Zirpel.

1:40.6

Yeah, those were good reasons. It had also been a number of years since I really went back to Morrison, the text, as a reader, just to see what I found there.

1:51.0

And, like, I can't think of a more exciting artist to just encounter on her own terms.

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