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🗓️ 23 May 2025
⏱️ 37 minutes
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Jake Tapper of CNN is one of America’s most famous newsmen, someone who knows Washington inside and out. He - quite literally - had a ringside seat at the most consequential presidential debate in American history, as the presenter in charge as President Joe Biden melted down before the eyes of the world; his frailties and diminishment on display for all to see.
Along with Alex Thompson of Axios, he has written a new book 'Original Sin' which, through conversations with over 200 White House and Democratic Party officials, tells the story of the tragic decline of Joe Biden. A history so many lived through but could not bring themselves to see, up to and including the President and his inner circle themselves.
Jake joins Lewis to discuss the book, the remarkable 2024 campaign and whether the Democrats can find a future until, and unless, they reckon with their most recent past.
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0:00.0 | The Newsagents podcast is brought to you by HSBC UK, opening up a world of opportunity. |
0:08.1 | This is a global player original podcast. |
0:12.4 | We're live from Georgia, a key battleground state in the race for the White House. |
0:17.8 | Now, please welcome the 46th President of the United States Joe Biden. |
0:23.6 | Folks, how are you? |
0:26.6 | And please welcome the 45th President of the United States, Donald Trump. |
0:32.6 | Child care, elder care, making sure that we continue to strengthen our health care system, |
0:42.3 | making sure that we're able to make every single solitary person eligible for what I've been able to do with the COVID, |
0:51.3 | excuse me, with dealing with everything we have to do with, look, if we finally beat Medicare, |
1:02.0 | I went to the World War II Cemetery, World War I Cemetery he refused to go to. He was standing with his four-star general, and he told me, said, I don't want to go in there |
1:11.3 | because there are a bunch of losers and suckers. My son was not a loser, was not a sucker. You're the |
1:16.2 | sucker. You're the loser. Well, I took two tests, cognitive tests. I aced them. Both of them, as you |
1:21.5 | know, we made it public. He took none. I'd like to see him take one, just one. I just won. How many billions of dollars do you owe in civil |
1:28.3 | penalties for molesting a woman in public, |
1:31.3 | for doing a whole range of things, |
1:33.3 | of having sex with a porn star on the night while your wife was pregnant? |
1:39.3 | I mean, what are you talking about? |
1:42.3 | You have the morals on an alley cat. |
1:56.1 | That was the moment when the grim, tragic reality of what had happened to President Joe Biden, to his body and mind, could no longer be ignored or avoided or wished away. |
2:02.7 | That night, nearly a year ago, the world saw what many of his opponents had long maintained and his allies had always denied that Joe Biden, America's oldest president, for at least some |
2:09.5 | of the time, could not do the job and certainly could not credibly run for the job again. |
2:16.2 | As the world watched Biden with horror, disbelief and |
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