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Witness History

The Truth and Reconciliation Commission of South Africa

Witness History

BBC

Personal Journals, Society & Culture, History

4.51.6K Ratings

🗓️ 11 December 2025

⏱️ 12 minutes

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Summary

Following the abolishment of Apartheid in the 1990s, South Africa had to find a way to confront its brutal past without endangering the chance for peace.

But it was a challenging process for many survivors of atrocities committed by the former racist regime.

Sisi Khampepe served on the Amnesty Committee of the Truth and Reconciliation Commission, she spoke to Rebecca Kesby in 2018 about how she had to put aside her own emotions and experiences at the hands of the police, to expose the truth about Apartheid.

This programme contains contains harrowing testimony and graphic descriptions of human rights violations throughout.

Eye-witness accounts brought to life by archive. Witness History is for those fascinated by the past. We take you to the events that have shaped our world through the eyes of the people who were there. For nine minutes every day, we take you back in time and all over the world, to examine wars, coups, scientific discoveries, cultural moments and much more. Recent episodes explore everything from the death of Adolf Hitler, the first spacewalk and the making of the movie Jaws, to celebrity tortoise Lonesome George, the Kobe earthquake and the invention of superglue. We look at the lives of some of the most famous leaders, artists, scientists and personalities in history, including: Eva Peron – Argentina’s Evita; President Ronald Reagan and his famous ‘tear down this wall’ speech; Thomas Keneally on why he wrote Schindler’s List; and Jacques Derrida, France’s ‘rock star’ philosopher. You can learn all about fascinating and surprising stories, such as the civil rights swimming protest; the disastrous D-Day rehearsal; and the death of one of the world’s oldest languages.

(Photo: Nelson Mandela and Desmond Tutu at the Reconciliation and Truth commission. Credit: Reuters)

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In the 1990s, South Africa was emerging into a new democracy after decades of the racist apartheid regime.

1:27.3

To help build a new society,

1:29.0

the country set up a Truth and Reconciliation Commission

1:31.7

to confront some of the darkest moments from its past.

1:35.8

In 2018, Rebecca Kesby spoke to one of the women who served on the commission,

1:40.7

and a warning.

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This programme contains graphic descriptions of violence and torture.

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