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Welcome back to the channel. Let us know in the chat where you're watching from, and if this is your first time here, or if you're a recurring viewer, I am very, very excited to have this conversation tonight. It's kind of like a long time coming with my spiritual father, Pastor T.J. O'Donnell. And yes, spiritual father is a biblical term.

It made some people mad earlier, but Paul calls himself one. So anyway. Yeah.

Yeah, I asked him a while back to have this conversation and this past week was like,

let's just do it now. Because honestly, it's a really important dialogue.

It's something that I was reflecting on today isn't really taught on. Like, I feel like I never

have had an extensive teaching in even my own church on this subject. And there's always a lot

of confusion surrounding it. There's a lot of confusion surrounding it.

There's a lot of questions surrounding it.

And at the end of the day, it's a really, really important aspect of our salvation.

And it's like a pivotal moment in the Christian walk.

So it needs to be understood and it needs to be,

it needs to be given way more attention than it has now because the truth is it's been really

watered down, no pun intended, of just like how significant it is.

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