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The Warning with Steve Schmidt

The TRUTH About Trump, Journalism & Trade | A Conversation with Ron Fournier

The Warning with Steve Schmidt

Steve Schmidt

News, Politics, Government

4.8784 Ratings

🗓️ 15 April 2025

⏱️ 63 minutes

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Summary

Amidst all the chaos in our country, the media is supposed to be the institution to hold our leaders accountable. Steve Schmidt sits down with journalist Ron Fournier to talk about the lack of spine in our news media and the need for a new political movement to unite America. Subscribe for more and follow me here: Substack: https://steveschmidt.substack.com/subscribe Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/thewarningses.bsky.social Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/SteveSchmidtSES/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@thewarningses Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thewarningses/ X: https://x.com/SteveSchmidtSES

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0:00.0

Welcome to the warning. I'm thrilled to be joined tonight by Ron Fornier, who writes at convulsions.

0:09.0

You can find him there. Ron is an exceptional journalist, writer, thinker from Detroit, Michigan,

0:18.9

a person deeply, deeply, deeply grounded in ethics and history and the

0:26.5

values of the country. It's one of my first reads every day. Ron Fornier is the real deal, as far as

0:34.6

journalists go. In a different era, Ron was the White House, excuse me, Chief White House

0:43.0

correspondent of the Associated Press, which in the world of journalism, that's the equivalent

0:49.2

of like a Supreme Commander title. You are the man and uh ron and i have had fights we've had

0:59.8

tough conversations i've hung up the phone on him he's hung up the phone on me i suspect a time

1:06.1

or two no one i respect more and uh as we get going this evening, my first question for you,

1:19.6

what's the lead of the story today?

1:25.0

President Trump caves on tariffs to 75 plus countries,

1:31.1

escalates the trade war on China,

1:33.0

and declares victory.

1:35.9

Period.

1:37.0

It's all bullshit.

1:41.3

Why

1:42.4

after 10 years, you were a fearsome presence in the briefing room in the White House?

1:53.3

And as somebody who was a spokesperson for the government, I never lied.

2:03.9

And when I was wrong,

2:09.4

the president or the vice president,

2:15.5

I meet an errant state.

2:21.0

It was a big deal. I was not,

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