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The New Abnormal

The Truth about Those ‘Classified’ Biden and Trump Docs

The New Abnormal

The Daily Beast

News & Politics

4.67.9K Ratings

🗓️ 19 March 2023

⏱️ 30 minutes

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Summary

The right and the left seemed to have gotten super worked up about the classified documents found in the private homes of both President Joe Biden and former President Donald Trump, but NSA and surveillance writer Kerry Howley, also the author of Bottoms Up and the Devil Laughs: A Journey Through the Deep State, saw the findings differently. She joins Andy Levy on this bonus episode of The New Abnormal to talk about what classified docs really mean—the bad and the-not-so-bad but still bad. Plus! She shares with Andy what whistleblowers like Edward Snowden and Chelsea Manning have in common and shares the story of a whistleblower named “Reality Winner,” a woman not a horse, whose story will infuriate you. And, as always, Danielle Moodie and Andy listen and make fun of clips of “racist” and really dumb Republicans.

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0:00.0

News of the global climate crisis can leave us feeling helpless.

0:05.0

Too much negativity can trigger our eco-anxiety,

0:08.0

leaving us paralyzed when we need to act.

0:11.0

This is why EONNEXT is in search of better news to power up for change.

0:16.0

According to a CBI report, the transition to a greener economy is boosting UK growth,

0:22.0

with 71 billion pounds of jobs and investment being brought to the UK's industrial towns.

0:28.0

If you're feeling impacted by eco-anxiety, EONNEXT have created a range of resources,

0:34.0

such as green noise soundscapes.

0:36.0

Just search power up for change in your podcasting app.

0:42.0

Hi, I'm Andy Levy, former Fox News and CNN HLN Guy and current cable news conscientious objector.

0:48.0

I'm a former libertarian who now sits pretty comfortably on the left.

0:52.0

Hi, I'm Danielle Moody, former educator and recovering lobbyist.

0:55.0

But today I'm an unapologetic woke commentator on America's threats to democracy.

1:00.0

And I'm producer Jesse Cannon, and I'm here to make sure things don't go too far off the rails.

1:05.0

We're here to have fun, smart conversations with some of the most knowledgeable and entertaining people in politics, media and beyond.

1:12.0

Our goal is to try and make sense of our current crazy world, our new abnormal, and hopefully even make you laugh through the tears.

1:19.0

Hello and welcome to another bonus episode of the new abnormal.

1:22.0

We thank you so much for being here.

1:24.0

Today we have an extra special guest with New York Magazine, feature writer Carrie Howley.

1:29.0

Who's going to talk to us about her new book, Bottoms Up and the Devil Laughs, a journey through the deep state.

1:33.0

And she'll tell us all about that.

1:35.0

But first, let's have some fun.

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