The Truth about the American Dream: The Baldwin-Buckley Debate
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4.3 • 1.7K Ratings
🗓️ 25 February 2024
⏱️ 56 minutes
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Summary
On February 18th, 1965, the University of Cambridge hosted one of the most legendary debates in history. Author James Baldwin and conservative intellectual William F. Buckley Jr took to the floor to discuss whether the American Dream was achievable only at the expense of black Americans.
To find out more about this debate, often overshadowed by other significant civil rights events of the same era, Don speaks to Nicholas Buccola. Nick is a professor of government at Claremont McKenna College and author of ‘The Fire is Upon Us’.
Produced and edited by Sophie Gee. Senior Producer was Charlotte Long.
Audio from the debate republished with the permission of The Cambridge Union (https://www.cus.org).
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| 0:00.0 | Hey everyone, it's Don here. Just a quick note from me. The upcoming episode includes some outdated language. |
| 0:06.4 | We have left it in its historical context as it is included in the motion of the debate. |
| 0:10.8 | We are dissecting today, but we wanted to explain ourselves |
| 0:13.7 | apologies for those who are offended this is the historical territory we're in |
| 0:19.6 | the Cambridge Union Society gathers in its esteemed chambers. |
| 0:25.0 | University students and guests, mostly male and mostly white, all properly dressed, |
| 0:31.0 | at least by the looser standards of the swing in 60s, are crammed shoulder to shoulder |
| 0:35.4 | on stiff-backed benches. The air redland of musty drapes, worn leather and wood polish, |
| 0:41.9 | and the hot cigarette breath of the 700 attendees, eagerly |
| 0:45.7 | anticipating the night's debates. |
| 0:48.2 | It would have been hard to hear above the din of the crowd, students rubbernecking around |
| 0:52.3 | the room scanning for friends among the many faces. |
| 0:55.6 | Outside in the other rooms, another 500 folks who couldn't fit into this room watching the |
| 1:00.4 | live BBC coverage that's going out to the nation. |
| 1:04.4 | Suddenly the sound level drops as the night's speakers file in, |
| 1:08.5 | taking up their positions at the center of the room. |
| 1:11.0 | Five for tonight's motion, five against it. Most notably of course, the |
| 1:15.8 | invited Americans. William F Buckley, leading conservative intellectual writer and publisher, and |
| 1:22.0 | James Baldwin, the famous author and essayist, |
| 1:24.8 | literary voice of the ongoing struggle |
| 1:27.1 | for civil rights in America. In 1965, February 18th, 1965, the Cambridge Union Debate Society at the University of Cambridge |
| 1:50.0 | in England, the oldest and most historic debate organization in the world |
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