Jackie Hill Perry says, if God could save you, surely he could save those you may see as too far beyond his grace.

I think we need to begin to see that conversion is a miracle no matter who it is.

Yeah.

It's a miracle.

And so we have to have faith for these people.

I think we have to pray with crazy faith and believe that God can change souls.

As he said he would do,

he's going to save people. This is the Revive Our Hearts podcast with Nancy DeMoss-Walmuth,

author of Lies Women Believe for April 6, 2018. If you have young children with you, know that today's program deals with some grown-up themes.

All this week, we've been hearing from spoken word poet Jackie Hill Perry, as she's been talking with our host, Nancy

DeMoss Walgamuth, about the transforming power of the gospel in her life. If you haven't been

listening to Jackie's story this week, please visit the archives at revive our hearts.com.

Today we're going to have a chance to hear some of Jackie's poetry.

But first, here's Nancy and Jackie, talking about some issues that have been in the news

the last few years.

We're hearing a lot these days about transgender, children, thinking, identifying as something

other than their biological sex.

When you were a little girl, now there were a lot of factors that played into this,

but you found yourself really wanting to be a boy, thinking maybe you should have been a boy,

acting out in some ways as a boy.

Now you're a mother, you've got a little girl.

And God willing, she's growing up in a very different environment than you did. But these parents who are hearing their children

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