The Truth about Frida Kahlo
Betwixt The Sheets: The History of Sex, Scandal & Society
History Hit
4.8 • 2.1K Ratings
🗓️ 13 February 2026
⏱️ 48 minutes
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Summary
Frida Kahlo is an icon of art, feminism and... eyebrows.
Her art and imagery has entered into the mainstream like few artists have, and her life was as colourful and challenging as her creations.
She lived through revolutions, crippling accidents and illness, had a complicated marriage (to say the least) and many lovers.
Who was the woman behind all of this?
Joining Kate is Professor Patience Schell, Chair in Hispanic Studies at the University of Aberdeen, to help us get to know her.
This episode was edited by Tim Arstall. The producer was Stuart Beckwith. The senior producer was Freddy Chick.
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| 0:00.0 | Hello, my lovely betwixters. It's me, Kate Lister, and you are listening to Betwitst the Sheets. Before we can go any further, I do have to tell you, yep, it's the Fair Do's Warning. This is an adult podcast, spoken by adults to other adults about adulty things in an adulty way covering arranged adults' subjects and you should be an adult too. Just someone on social media recently asked me if we reuse the fair dues warnings or if I do it originally every single time. |
| 0:24.2 | And after almost 400 episodes, I'm rather embarrassed to say it never actually occurred to me that we could just reuse them. |
| 0:31.9 | Now, I really do do a different one every single time. |
| 0:36.3 | And, well, we've started now, so we'll just keep doing it. Anyway, |
| 0:38.9 | enjoy the show. We're in Mexico City in 1925 and a young Frida Carlo is about to board a bus. |
| 0:51.1 | In a few moments, a catastrophic accident will change her life forever. The woman she becomes is in many ways |
| 0:58.8 | because of this shockingly violent moment. Her relationship with her body, her sexuality, and of course |
| 1:05.3 | her art can all be said to start right here in the wreckage of this crash. |
| 1:15.8 | For the rest of her life, Frida Carlo will refuse to be modest about pain or polite about desire. She'll turn her own body into a canvas, staring back at the world on her own terms. |
| 1:21.7 | She is a fascinating, complex woman who we've been long overdue getting to know on this show. |
| 1:28.1 | So this is the truth about Frida Carlo. Hello and welcome back to Betwigs the Sheets, the history of sex scandal and society with me, Kate Lister. |
| 2:00.8 | Frida Carlo is an icon of art and feminism, not to mention Mexico. |
| 2:05.8 | Her image is reproduced everywhere, but her story is also one of suffering, defiance and scandal. |
| 2:12.7 | Joining me today to help us get to know this incredible artist is the wonderful patient shell, |
| 2:19.0 | chair in Hispanic studies at the University of Aberdeen. |
| 2:23.0 | And whilst I'm here, I wanted to let you know again about the two Betwixt the Sheets live shows |
| 2:27.5 | that are happening in May. We've got one in Edinburgh and we have got one in London Town. |
| 2:32.4 | Tickets are available at feign.co.uk.uk. Just search for Betwixt the Sheets and we will got one in London town. Tickets are available at fane.co.uk. Just search for |
| 2:36.0 | Betwixt the Sheets and we will see you there. Right. Without further ado, let's do it. |
| 2:45.6 | Hello and welcome to Betwixt the Sheets. It's only patient shell. How are you doing? |
| 2:53.7 | I'm great. It's so nice to be with you, Kate. It's so nice to meet you. This is such a requested episode. And it's honestly embarrassing. We haven't done it before. Frieda Carlo. What a woman. |
| 3:05.8 | I know. Amazing, huh? Absolutely incredible. Probably one of Mexicans' best known artists. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I would say so. Absolutely. Definitely. And if anyone's listening and you don't know who she is, you do know who she is. Go and give her a Google and then you'll go, oh, I do know. She's the one with the eyebrows. |
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