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The LRB Podcast

The Trump Takeover

The LRB Podcast

London Review of Books

Society & Culture

4.4581 Ratings

🗓️ 14 November 2024

⏱️ 53 minutes

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Summary

Adam Shatz is joined by Jamelle Bouie and Deborah Friedell to pick through the results and implications of Trump’s victory. The US has a booming economy of high wages and nearly full employment, yet economic discontent, particularly around inflation, has been one of the more popular explanations for the election result. As well as considering the importance of inflation, Jamelle and Deborah look at what went wrong with the Harris campaign’s big bet on abortion rights, why Republican-voting women say they feel safer under Trump and why the Democrats’ insistence that democracy was on the ballot failed to resonate with many voters. Read Adam Tooze on the Democrats' defeat in the LRB: https://www.lrb.co.uk/the-paper/v46/n22/adam-tooze/the-democrats-defeat Read Deborah Friedell on J.D. Vance https://www.lrb.co.uk/the-paper/v46/n20/deborah-friedell/short-cuts LRB Audio Discover audiobooks, Close Readings and more from the LRB: https://lrb.me/audiolrbpod Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hello, you're listening to the London Review of Books podcast, and I'm your host, Adam Shatz.

0:20.7

On Tuesday, November 5th, Donald Trump became the first

0:24.1

Republican in 20 years to win the national popular vote and the electrical college. It was a

0:29.4

crushing defeat for Kamala Harris and the Democratic Party, one that has unleashed a ferocious

0:34.6

blame game among Democrats. In one of the sharpest rebukes,

0:39.0

Bernie Sanders said that the American working class had abandoned the Democratic Party because

0:44.0

the Democratic Party had abandoned them. That's the view of a left economic populace. The view

0:49.3

Sanders has articulated eloquently throughout his career, but there are other diagnoses of what went

0:55.9

wrong for the Democrats, other explanations behind Donald Trump's victory, his return to power

1:02.1

for a second term, and the future of Democratic Party politics will in large part depend

1:07.6

on how the party interprets its defeat in the coming years.

1:11.7

A wave of sorrow, anxiety, and near desperation has gripped Blue America, terrified at the prospect

1:18.7

of an unabashedly authoritarian, demagogic president coming to power this time with hardly

1:24.7

any restraints, a man who is impervious to inhibition and whose followers

1:29.1

have cheered on his most destructive impulses. A man who, let us recall, is a convicted felon,

1:35.5

an abuser of women, and the instigator of an attempted insurrection on January 6, 2021.

1:42.1

In conceding defeat, Kamala Harris did something we can be sure Trump would not have done if he had lost to her. To make sense of these developments, I'll be speaking with two experts on the American political scene, Jamel Bowie, a columnist for the New York Times and Deborah Friedel, who frequently comments on U.S. politics for the London Review of Books.

2:02.2

Thanks for joining me. Thank you for having us. Let's start with the blame game. What happened

2:08.4

on November 5th, and who's to blame? Was this a victory for Trump or a defeat for Kamala Harris

2:14.9

and the Democratic Party, or both? A lot of explanations have been advanced for Trump's win.

2:20.3

Some have emphasized anger over inflation, immigration, wokeism, others a deep-seated racism

2:29.3

and sexism that worked against Kamala Harris.

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