This is the Cato Daily Podcast for Thursday, November 30th, 2017.

I'm Caleb Brown.

A year since the election of Donald Trump, we evaluate his foreign policy from

taunting NATO allies to cozying up to authoritarian leaders to rattling savers

over North Korea and Iran it's been a year of substantial uncertainty.

The Cato Institute's Sahar Khan and John Glazer

discussed the last year of the Trump foreign policy.

In 2016, amid saying a lot of sort of terrible things about how he would handle foreign policy,

Donald Trump said some reasonable things, things that, you know that amid all the horribleness may have made people

who would otherwise praise what he had to say a little reticent to do so, but what was the thinking about what a Donald Trump foreign

policy might look like about this time last year? Well I think with Donald Trump

especially when he was on the campaign trail, it was obvious

that he didn't have any foreign policy experience.

But that said, as you mentioned, his rhetoric was encourage allies to share the costs of security to make sure that

American jobs increased and that the US economy improved and that was sort of the rhetoric that he used on his campaign trail.

With respect to foreign policy, it was very hard to predict what exactly he would do while he was campaigning.

Yeah, I think, look, the Trump phenomenon has been characterized mainly by uncertainty and

unpredictability.

And at times during the presidency,

he has appeared to make this an explicit strategic decision.

It hearkens back to the Richard Nixon's madman theory of international politics.

You know, you portray yourself as erratic and unpredictable and you'll kind of scare your enemies and adversaries stiff and

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