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The Trump Comeback... Michael Wolff’s Inside Story

Americast

BBC

Politics, Government, News

4.22.8K Ratings

🗓️ 21 March 2025

⏱️ 25 minutes

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Summary

How did Donald Trump get close to Elon Musk? What is the story behind his relationship with Melania, and how did Trump get re-elected against all the odds?

Donald Trump is no stranger to the journalist Michael Wolff, whose latest book is his fourth on the current president. His book, All or Nothing, details the story of Trump’s comeback and and his relationships to the people who helped him do it.

Trump himself has called Wolff “fake news” and described the book as “junk.”

Justin spoke with the journalist and author about who is sources are, whether he spoke to Trump whilst writing this book, and why a staffer carries a printer on the golf course.

HOSTS:

* Justin Webb, Radio 4 presenter

GUEST:

* Michael Wolff, journalist and author of “All or Nothing: How Trump Recaptured America”

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Transcript

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0:00.0

What do we really know about Donald Trump?

0:07.3

What do we know about his relationship with his wife?

0:10.0

What do we know about how much he takes his own decisions?

0:13.5

How many of those decisions are foisted on him by his team and perhaps by one Elon Musk.

0:19.2

What do we know about the workings of the Trump

0:22.8

inner sanctum? We're going to find out in just a second. Welcome to AmeriCast.

0:30.0

AmeriCast from BBC News. You're gambling with the lives of millions of people. You're gambling

0:36.7

with World War III.

0:38.3

President Trump's message is very simple.

0:40.4

We are done being taken advantage of.

0:42.2

Mr. President, in the name of our God, have mercy upon the people.

0:46.5

And we're scared now.

0:47.8

Are you supportive of these onesies?

0:49.7

I'm supportive of vaccines.

0:51.3

What is happening?

0:52.4

Like, this is not America.

0:55.5

This is a terrible nightmare.

0:59.5

This is what victory feels like. Yeah.

1:12.3

Hello, it's Sarah here in the BBC's Bureau in Washington.

1:17.5

And it's Justin in the worldwide headquarters of AmeriCast in London, England.

1:21.8

And we're going to be hearing Sarah in just a second from Michael Wolfe.

1:24.9

Michael Wolfe, who has written quite a few books about Donald Trump and about his inner circle, but has just brought out a new one, which

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