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The Remnant with Jonah Goldberg

The Trump Canon

The Remnant with Jonah Goldberg

The Dispatch

Politics, News

4.66.3K Ratings

🗓️ 10 November 2020

⏱️ 71 minutes

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Summary

In the Before Times, when we’d all walk around bookstores putting our dangerously diseased digits on various tomes without a care in the world, did you notice a recurring phenomenon? It’s been the case for the past few years that the nonfiction sections of any major bookstore are filled with a glut of “Trump era” books – either memoirs from officials, books attempting to psychologize the man himself, or vaguely rant-y polemics that are big on rhetoric but light on substance. What if, hypothetically, you wanted to torture yourself by entering a purgatory-like state in which you read around 150 of those things? That’s what Carlos Lozada – book critic for the Washington Post – did so that you don’t have to. Today, Jonah speaks with Lozada about how he was able to synthesize the “Trump canon” into a set of identifiable narratives about this moment in American politics, eventually resulting in his own new book, What Were We Thinking: A Brief Intellectual History of the Trump Era. Show Notes: -Carlos’ book, What Were We Thinking -Jonah on The Greening of America: “Stupendously awful” -Miles Taylor, “senior administration official”? -“LODESTAR!” -The largely unread followup to Fire and Fury -Don McGahn’s crazy 2 years in the administration -Carlos reviews Michael Cohen’s bizarre book -Solzhenitsyn in prison

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0:00.0

Oh

0:14.1

My name is gentlemen

0:16.4

Can I please have your attention

0:19.4

You

0:27.6

Greetings, you're listening. This is Jonah Goldberg the host of the Remnant Podcast

0:32.8

If you didn't know that thanks for stumbling by we hope this air and dipty will help

0:37.2

Um, today we have a guest we want to get on for a long time. He's the

0:41.9

Uh, nonfiction book critic for the Washington Post

0:44.3

He's also a professor of journalism at Notre Dame or adjunct professor

0:49.0

And uh, he's a member of the Polter Board and he's the author of what were we thinking a brief intellectual history of the Trump era

0:57.2

Carlos, was that a thanks for coming? I really appreciate it having it on. Thank you for having me. It's exciting

1:03.1

Um, you're containing your excitement well. I admire

1:08.4

So uh

1:10.5

So just so listeners know this by time this airs

1:15.2

Uh, because

1:16.2

Today we're recording this on Thursday. We may know

1:19.1

for sure

1:20.3

whether

1:21.2

Joe Biden is the next president or we may not

1:24.8

Um, so we're gonna talk with that in mind and if people if people find that

1:30.7

Disruptive to the space time continuum so be it um

1:35.6

But I I'm glad I'm getting this

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