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The Counsel

The Trump Administration Wrongly Took $160 Billion and Won’t Give it Back

The Counsel

Vox Media Podcast Network

News, Politics

4.7861 Ratings

🗓️ 13 March 2026

⏱️ 13 minutes

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Summary

Elie Honig is a former Assistant U.S. Attorney and co-chief of the organized crime unit at the Southern District of New York, where he prosecuted more than 100 mobsters, including members of La Cosa Nostra, and the Gambino and Genovese crime families. He went on to serve as Director of the Department of Law and Public Safety at New Jersey Division of Criminal Justice. He is currently Special Counsel at Lowenstein Sandler and a CNN legal analyst. For a transcript of Elie’s note and the full archive of contributor notes, head to CAFE.com. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

What I've dedicated my life to is revenge.

0:04.7

A brand new drama based on the bestselling novel.

0:07.5

They think they're better than us.

0:08.5

Who do you think you are?

0:09.8

I'm going to prove to them that they're wrong.

0:11.5

She's punishing me.

0:13.0

You destroyed my family.

0:14.3

I will not rest until I've destroyed yours.

0:17.0

A woman of substance on Channel 4 starts tonight at 9.

0:21.8

Hey everyone, Ellie here, wishing you a happy Friday.

0:25.1

Well, the war in Iran continued to be the dominant story in the news this week.

0:30.2

And while that's happening, there continues to be mayhem and unraveling at the United States Department of Justice. It's flown a bit

0:39.3

beneath the radar, understandably, because we are all rightly focused on Iran. But there were

0:44.9

a trifecta of stories this week from DOJ that all basically paint the same bottom line

0:51.9

picture. First of all, we learned that political folks at DOJ

0:55.5

have been pressing career line-level prosecutors, those who work there for a living, regardless

1:00.9

of politics, to indict John Brennan, something to do with alleged false testimony he gave

1:06.2

over the origins of, yes, the Steele dossier. That thing will never go away. Anytime you have political folks pushing for an indictment and the origins of, yes, the steel dossier, that thing will never go away.

1:15.7

Anytime you have political folks pushing for an indictment and the career folks pushing back,

1:17.6

my money's going to be with the career folks.

1:22.2

So they may indict this like the others, Letitia James, Jim Comey, or try to indict it,

1:27.3

Mark Kelly, but I suspect this one, given the track record, will fail as well.

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