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The Brian Lehrer Show

The Trump Administration's Incomplete View of Nigeria’s Crisis

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🗓️ 26 November 2025

⏱️ 22 minutes

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Summary

NPR international correspondent Emmanuel Akinwotu discusses recent violence in Nigeria and the Trump administration's response to that violence.

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0:00.0

Brian Lair on WNYC, we're going to talk about the nation of Nigeria now.

0:15.3

Maybe you know, maybe you're connected to Nigeria from Nigeria,

0:19.8

roots in Nigeria, but if you're not, you may not know

0:24.5

that Nigeria is in the news facing a surge of violence and a security situation that analysts say

0:31.0

has been deteriorating for years. There have been mass kidnappings at schools recently and deadly attacks in rural communities. But here in the

0:40.6

U.S., there is a U.S. element to this. The violence has been pulled into a very different conversation.

0:46.3

President Trump and some of his allies are describing these incidents as part of an organized

0:51.6

Islamist campaign targeting Christians, and the president has even

0:56.2

threatened U.S. military action in response. Now, we should say Nigerian officials and many

1:02.5

experts who watch the region closely say that picture is incomplete at best. Extremist groups have

1:08.5

killed Christians, but also Muslims in Nigeria, and some of the deadliest attacks

1:13.4

grow out of land disputes, resource conflicts, and a security system stretch far beyond its capacity

1:20.8

for like 15 years. At the same time, armed bandit gangs have become one of the biggest

1:26.6

threats in the country,

1:28.0

hidden communities of many faiths.

1:30.1

And in the middle of all, those families are still searching for more than 250 children.

1:35.0

This is what's in the news as the immediate hook.

1:37.5

More than 250 children still missing, taken from a Catholic boarding school just last week. So joining us now is NPR,

1:47.4

international correspondent, Emmanuel Achenwatu, to help us untangle what's really driving the

1:53.5

violence, also, excuse me, how it's framed in Washington, and why the reality is far more

2:00.3

complicated than a simple religious

2:01.7

conflict, but also to talk about whatever religious conflict is involved.

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