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Thanks for listening to Politics by Faith, brought to you by the Patriot Gold Group. This is part

two of our special separation of church and state in the previous episode.

We did our monologue and then talked to Michael Knowles. Here we're talking to William Wolfe

from the Center for Baptist Leadership. And we're talking about this guy, Isaac Backus,

who I can't wait to learn more about. And then we talked to Latham Watts from Alliance Defending

Freedom, who gave an absolutely beautiful answer at the end of our interview about why this conversation matters, why this is important, and why it's essential actually about knowing who we are and who we should fight to be again.

Here it is. Enjoy.

Hey, welcome back to the First TV, our special Church v. State.

Just talked to Michael Knowles. He's wonderful, as always. I want to go right now to William Wolf. He's the executive director of the Center for Baptist Leadership. It used to be at the

Heritage Foundation and was a Trump appointee at the State Department and the Department of Defense.

Mr. Wolf, how are you doing, sir? I'm doing great. Thanks for having me on. Good to talk to you,

brother. Let's go right to our opening question. The separation of church and state. Is that exist

in this country? Should it exist? Does it exist?

Well, I think the separation of church and state does exist, but not quite how people understand

it. That's not the language from the First Amendment. The First Amendment says that Congress shall

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