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The Trouble with Cops Using Stingrays

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4.5979 Ratings

🗓️ 19 April 2016

⏱️ 11 minutes

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Summary

How do cops use so-called "stingrays" to intercept phone communication and why is it such a big secret? Adam Bates explains.

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0:00.0

This is the Cato Daily Podcast for Tuesday, April 19th, 2016.

0:08.0

I'm Caleb Brown.

0:09.7

How do police make use of so-called sting rays intercepting cell phone communications,

0:14.0

and what do non-disclosure agreements with companies that make those stingrays mean for criminal justice.

0:19.0

For the Cato Institute's Benefactor's Summit in Las Vegas,

0:22.0

Cato's Adam Bates, discussed the implications.

0:26.1

In 2013, two men set up a drug deal in a parking lot in Tallahassee. When the drug dealer arrived, the men

0:35.3

pulled out guns. They robbed the drug dealer. They stole the drugs. They stole

0:39.5

money. And importantly, they stole the drug dealer's cell phone.

0:43.0

The drug dealer managed to contact police,

0:46.0

which is a 911 call that I would very much like to hear.

0:49.0

They stole my drugs, come help me, police.

0:52.0

But a few days later, the police... They stole my drugs, come help me, police.

0:53.0

But a few days later, the police managed to track down the thieves.

0:58.5

They found them with the drugs, they found the money,

1:00.8

and they found the stolen cell phone.

1:03.2

I think prosecutors would call this a slam dunk case.

1:07.3

They had the drugs and the money and the phone in the home where the men were found. In Florida this is

1:15.4

aggravated armed robbery which carries more than 30 years in prison it's a

1:20.6

felony. So this is a dead to rights prosecution, 30 years in prison.

1:26.0

But that's not what happened.

1:27.9

Instead, the men went home that day, the day of their trial,

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