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Outside/In

The Trojan Seahorse

Outside/In

NHPR

Society & Culture, Documentary, Natural Sciences, Nature, Science

4.71.5K Ratings

🗓️ 9 July 2025

⏱️ 31 minutes

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Summary

In 1970, marine architect Charlie Canby got an odd assignment: Design a 600-foot ship for an undisclosed purpose and an undisclosed customer. Only after it was built did he finally find out what it was for.  “I was dumbfounded,” he said. “I drove away in a daze. I could not believe what we were really doing.” In this episode, reporter Daniel Ackerman tells the unbelievable story of a boat, a government conspiracy, and the birth of a new industry that could change the way we look at oceans forever.  Featuring Charlie Canby, Andrew Thaler, Wernher Krutein, and Hank Philippi Ryan Produced by Daniel Ackerman. For full credits and transcript, visit outsideinradio.org. SUPPORT Outside/In is made possible with listener support. Click here to become a sustaining member of Outside/In.  Follow Outside/In on Instagram or join our private discussion group on Facebook. LINKS Check out this 1975 New York Times article published after reporters discovered the true mission of the Glomar Explorer. A corporate update for shareholders detailing The Metals Company’s recent test of deep-sea mining.  Another archival report from The New York Times details the SEC investigation into whether investors in the Glomar Explorer were misled. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Transcript

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0:00.0

Before we get started, I want to thank our sponsor for this episode,

0:03.3

Walking Alongside, a podcast from Dartmouth Health.

0:06.6

Walking Alongside is a podcast about addiction, recovery, friendship, and support.

0:10.9

It's a short show that provides a dose of education and a dose of confidence for those

0:15.3

looking to support people with addiction who are walking along the path to recovery.

0:19.2

We can make a tremendous difference.

0:21.1

Listen to Season 1, walking alongside.

0:23.1

Now on Apple, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts.

0:25.9

Season 2 is out soon.

0:30.9

Hey, this is Outside In, a show where curiosity and the natural world collide.

0:35.5

I'm Nate Hedgy.

0:36.4

All right.

0:37.0

I've got my mic on.

0:39.1

I think it's sounding pretty good.

0:40.8

This is reporter Daniel Ackerman.

0:43.1

Typically, he covers natural resources, the economy, stuff like that.

0:47.1

And this has led him to develop a very specific and unusual beat.

0:52.2

The birth of deep sea mining.

0:55.8

I mean, it seems like science fiction, right?

0:58.0

It's just a pretty out there idea to be sending giant machines to the freezing cold,

1:03.5

pitch black depths of the ocean to collect metals that we can turn into car batteries.

1:09.8

We're going to get more into the actual mining part in a bit.

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