Welcome to You Can't Make This Up, a companion podcast from Netflix.

I'm Rebecca Lervoy and I'll be hosting this week's episode.

Here on you can't make this up, we go behind the scenes of Netflix's original true crime stories with special guests.

In this episode, I'll be speaking with director Brian Nappenberger and journalist Garrett

Thoroff to cover their six-part docu series The Trials of Gabriel Fernandez.

We'll be discussing the entire series so make sure you've seen all six episodes.

A warning will also be discussing extreme child abuse in this episode so please take

care if this affects you. Eight-year-old Gabriel Fernandez was abused and tortured to death by his mother,

Pearl Fernandez, and her boyfriend, Isaro Aguirre.

Garrett Thoroff and director Brian Nappenberger

leave no stone unturned to look for what went wrong

in the safety net that should have saved Gabriel. I'll be talking with them both about the trials

after Gabriel's death, the ongoing case with the social workers responsible for

Gabriel and how a child like Gabriel can easily fall through the cracks of a broken system.

Now, here's my conversation with Brian and Garrett. This was the case that just followed me from that night.

It's still hard to believe two people did all those horrible things to him.

April Fernandez was at the time of his death, eight years old.

That was my friend and it really caught me because it was his parent who took his life.

Hi Brian, thanks so much for joining me.

Thank you for having us.

And Garrett the Roth, thanks so much for talking with me.

It's great to be here.

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