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When you cease life-saving measures at a scene where someone's been shot and is now deceased at the scene.

Do you leave sort of any attached medical devices with him?

Well, as little as possible.

But so what would have been left on him would have been defibrillator pads, probably EKG electrodes, and probably a CPR puck.

Now, when you arrived on scene or when you were exiting, did you ever notice any mail outside that might have been with some police officers?

Oh, a person?

Yeah.

Yes.

One person, one male.

And did you notice him when you arrived or when you left?

When I arrived, we, again, my job in particular

is to kind of get a larger overview of the scene. So I did notice a person talking with PD.

And when you observed this person, did you notice anything that he appeared to be injured in any way?

No.

So no obvious injuries to you?

No.

If you had been asked to treat him, would you have?

Of course.

Did you see that same person outside when you left? Yes.

And when you left, did you observe anything about him again that he appeared to be injured in any way?

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