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in last week's episode I was joined by a defense lawyer Adam Rogers

an investigative journalist Paulango

to discuss the major Canadian news story of the week,

which was the sentencing decision related to convicted killer Ibrahim Ali.

And tonight I'm going to continue exploring this topic, but in a different way.

If you recall during the victim impact statements,

Ibrahim Ali shocked the courtroom when he plugged his ears

for an extended period of time.

Well, I think it may have been even worse than the public heard, and

tonight we're going to get as close as we can to entering that courtroom and seeing it ourselves.

News reporter Kate Walker was there sitting just a few feet from the 13 year old victims family for the entire hearing

and she generously offered to join us here and share her memories of that disturbing day

So let's not waste any time here in this episode her memories of that disturbing day.

So let's not waste any time here.

In this episode of nighttime, Kate Walker and I

will discuss the trial and sentencing of Ibrahim Ali. Molly.

So just to start, Kate, tell me a bit about you and your background and your work, who is Kate Walker? Yeah, so I'm originally from the East Coast from Halifax, Nova Scotia.

I grew up there. I spent a year in Costa Rica studying while I was in high school, moved back, and then ended up going to Ontario for university

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