It's Thursday March 4th. I'm Eheala Hughes.

And I'm Gideon Rezek and this is what a day where we have used WandaVision as the inspiration for our show's new nickname, Ekela Gideon.

Yeah, we're just like the MCU, we fight crime, but mostly it's over Zoom, so...

We're still effective, though.

On today's show, a conversation with journalist Jamiles Lardy about Derek Shavin and his upcoming trial over the killing of George Floyd, then some headlines.

Right, so next week in Minnesota, jury selection will begin in the Derek Shavin trial.

He's the former Minneapolis police officer who knelt on George Floyd's neck and killed him last summer.

And after jury selection, the trial itself is expected to begin at the end of the month.

Shavin is currently facing charges of second-degree murder and second-degree manslaughter.

And Keith Ellison, the state attorney general, is working to reinstate a charge of third-degree murder as well.

It's a big case, obviously, and it's definitely going to get a lot of media attention in the coming days.

Already, there are reports of security preparations being taken around the courthouse, including barbed wire. It is intense.

Right, and so we wanted to take some time today to dive a little bit deeper.

Last month, the Marshall Project reporters, Jamiles Lardy and Abby Van Sickle,

published a report detailing prior instances where Shavin used excessive force, very similar excessive force,

in restraining people and got their first hand account of those encounters.

We spoke with Jamiles about this reporting, how it could play into the trial, and what the results will or won't mean for the American police system.

Here's our conversation.

Jamiles, thank you so much for being on the show.

I appreciate you having me.

Yeah.

Let's talk about Derek Shavin.

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