This podcast explores themes of violence against women, rape and murder.

It includes explicit dialogue.

Listener discretion is advised.

Please note some of the voices you hear in this series have been performed by actors.

Previously, on Mind of a Monster, the Hollywood Ripper.

He's so confident in his ability to brutally murder somebody.

From ID and Arrow Media, I'm criminal psychologist, Dr. Michelle Ward,

and this is Mind of a Monster, the Hollywood Ripper.

Chapter 6, The Trial.

I think he's a psychopath.

And he goes, lay down on the bed.

And it was the way he said it.

There was a booty.

And that booty contained a droplet of Maria's blood.

It's blood. It's 2008, 15 years after Trisha Pacacho's murder, seven years after Ashley Ellarin's killing, and three years since the discovery of Maria Bruno's horribly mutilated body. Michael Garjulo moves out of the El Mani complex where he killed Maria.

Now he's living in an apartment in Santa Monica with his new wife and his mother-in-law.

And that's where he targets his next victim, his neighbor, Michelle Murphy.

So here's Michelle's. There's an alley, here's Garjulo.

From his kitchen window, he can look into her bedroom.

So he knew her coming and goings.

So she used to work out in the alley.

She'd run and do her calisthenics and whatever.

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