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When Diplomacy Fails Podcast

The Trent Affair #5: From The Brink

When Diplomacy Fails Podcast

Zack Twamley

Phd, International Relations, Korean War, European History, 17th Century, 18th Century, Politics, 20th Century, Thirty Years' War, History, 19th Century, War, First World War

4.8773 Ratings

🗓️ 31 December 2021

⏱️ 41 minutes

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Summary

In Episode 5 of the Trent Affair - our final episode, for now! - we ask the big questions, and finish our narrative which stretched across both sides of the Atlantic. At the last moment, it seemed, calmer heads had prevailed, and an Anglo-American War was not required as the price for stained British honour. 


But the two sides had come VERY close to such a nightmare, closer, in fact, than they had since 1812. Could something be learned from this exchange? Or, as the gloomier pundits warned, was the Trent Affair merely the first in a long string of incidents between the British and US? Though the Trent hadn't provided the spark, they said, a third Anglo-American War was only a matter of time...

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0:00.0

Hello and welcome history friends patrons all to the last episode of the Trent Affair.

0:12.2

And in the previous episode we learned how the British ultimatum was received in Washington on the 23rd of December.

0:18.9

Ambassador Lyons was under strict instructions to press for British

0:22.5

satisfaction, but he was to do so politely, not menacingly. Neither the American Secretary

0:28.6

of State William Seward nor Abraham Lincoln would have been comforted by the terms of

0:34.0

Britain's ultimatum, which demanded an apology and the release of the imprisoned

0:37.9

commissioners, above all. As the third week of December 1861 were on, the British awaited

0:43.5

news of what the United States would say, and the Americans were faced with a stark choice.

0:48.1

Would it be peace, or would it be war? No amount of dithering, or distracting, or debating on matters

0:53.7

of international law

0:55.0

would be sufficient to bluff Britain into accepting the unacceptable.

0:59.5

We will recall at the end of the last episode that Earl Russell wanted a plain yes or a plain no

1:04.9

to the ultimatum's terms.

1:06.6

In the event that the answer given was the latter a no, Britain was prepared as we have seen

1:11.7

to engage in the unthinkable, a third Anglo-American War. In this episode, we bring the relevant

1:17.5

strands together of this incredible story, a story which I've really enjoyed bringing to you all,

1:22.6

and I hope you've enjoyed hearing it too, and I hope getting a foretaste of national honour

1:27.2

gives you some kind of

1:28.3

hint into what I'm doing for my PhD. There'll certainly be more of this to come in the future.

1:33.4

If you'd like to listen to all five of these episodes, add free, then yeah, go over to Patreon,

1:39.0

but if you'd like to listen to all five of them stuck together without any intros or

1:43.1

outros, just as like this

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