what's up fungal associates welcome to completely arbitrary the podcast about

trees and other related topics I'm one of your hosts my name is Alex

Croson and Casey's forcing me to introduce him you know you always do

whenever I go eat you far into it I usually cut you off and I have to like

say oh sorry and you get a stop you get a glare for me yeah exactly so now I'm

getting a glare when I don't say anything Alex oh for you introduce yourself I

see I case well we started the interview or we started the uh well gosh I don't

want to bury the lead we started the episode with an argument we did that very

rarely happens well I didn't know what you were doing I don't think it was an

argument is more of a figuring out what is correct no we're mad at each other

what this is the thing where I if I'm mad at you I have to make it seem like

you're mad at me to justify it all right that seems that seems it seems unfair but I'm into it

I'm getting bullied into being a bully yeah there's something here there's

something this is this has got to be like there's some psychology here I'm

sure let's talk about my psychological defects let's talk about your psychological

manipulation of me wow Alex okay is this really happening or is this like pretend oh pretend I

don't I don't I don't talk about that Alex tell me what are your deepest darkest fears

make sure you're recording I guess heights is up there yeah oh hey that's more that's one

of my more practical like more like kind of surface level fears yeah like uh of almost not

of mortality but of the potential of mortality as far as heights yeah because you'd be falling

I'm honestly afraid when I get up to a high place uh I am afraid that I'm going to fling

myself off oh I don't know why I would do that you wouldn't yeah I just start to imagine like

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