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The Dispatch Podcast

The Treasure of the Scout Mindset

The Dispatch Podcast

The Dispatch

News, Politics

4.63.3K Ratings

🗓️ 9 April 2021

⏱️ 75 minutes

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Summary

Are you a “scout” or a “soldier”? What do those terms even mean? In Julia Galef’s new book, The Scout Mindset, she argues the scout mindset is underrepresented in today’s world. “The scout’s role, unlike the soldier, is not to go out and attack or defend,” she says. “It’s to go out, and see what’s really out there as clearly as possible and to put together as accurate a map of the territory or a situation as you can.” Plus, listen closely for Steve’s John McLaughlin impression and why Julia believes bouncing between Airbnbs is way better than signing an actual lease. Show Notes: -“The Scout Mindset” by Julia Galef -Rationally Speaking Podcast -Julia Galef on Twitter -Julia’s TED Talk -The Dispatch Manifesto -Dr. Tom Gilovich -Julia’s Twitter thread about Airbnbs -Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Transcript

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0:00.0

Welcome to the Dispatch podcast.

0:02.2

I'm your host, Sarah Isger,

0:03.8

joined by Steve Hayes.

0:05.6

This week, we are interviewing Julia Gaylev.

0:08.4

She is the author of The Scout Mindset,

0:11.1

why some people see things clearly and others don't.

0:15.0

She's also the host of the podcast rationally speaking,

0:18.0

exploring the borderlands between reason and nonsense.

0:21.6

But today, we're gonna focus on the book.

0:23.5

This is about self-deception.

0:26.5

Our desire to be right causes us to be wrong

0:29.2

more often than we think she says,

0:31.0

it can blind us, hurting our judgment

0:32.8

and decision making, leaving us with vulnerable to risk.

0:35.8

If we wanna get things right when it matters most,

0:38.2

we must train ourselves to have a scout mindset,

0:41.4

to survey the territory and discover what's actually true.

0:44.8

Julia, we are just so excited to have you today.

1:02.2

Steven, I just gobbled up this book like it was

1:06.8

the tastiest side of vegetables.

1:11.1

Because it's not dessert.

1:12.3

This is good eating.

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