Hello there and welcome back my name is Stephanie Safarian and you're listening to

episode 275 of sustainable minimalists on today's show we are discussing how on

earth we as human beings can manage the stress, the anxiety, the numbness,

the depression, the anger that we may likely be feeling after the shooting at Rob Elementary School in which 19 children and two teachers were murdered.

We're also discussing specifically in the second part of today's conversation, how the parents listening can best help

their children navigate the news headlines and the state of America in 2022 in which mass shootings are indeed commonplace.

To help me discuss these very important topics is licensed psychotherapist Lena Der Holly.

She is also the author of The Facebook Narcissist and she's on the show today to give us some perspective as to what feelings are normal, what feelings may perhaps need some professional help, and how on earth we as parents can help our children if we are also struggling.

Lena really thrilled to talk to you today. How are you?

I'm great. Thank you for having me Stephanie.

Again, thank you for coming on it has been a difficult two weeks

for me for humanity and especially for the parents listening I know I personally can't look at the faces of those

19 beautiful children without bursting into tears and here we are nearly two weeks

later and so I want to talk to you today about the ways in which people can

navigate this time in America. So before we get into all of that, tell us, Lena, who you are,

tell us what you do, and let's infuse a little bit

of silliness into this conversation

because it's such a heavy one.

Tell us who you are, what you do,

and your favorite television show.

My name is Lena Jurholly.

I'm a licensed psychotherapist and I see a lot of couples who do some family

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