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Bachelor Party

‘The Traitors’ Season 4, Episodes 4-5 Recap, and ‘Tell Me Lies’ Returns

Bachelor Party

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3.95.1K Ratings

🗓️ 16 January 2026

⏱️ 61 minutes

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Summary

Today, Juliet and Callie celebrate the send-off of their least favorite player from ‘The Traitors’ (01:21). They get into Michael Rapaport’s comment about Colton at the roundtable, and they dissect which Traitors are playing the best game. They choose the best-dressed players of each episode, mourn the loss of some of their favorite players, and try to make sense of the challenges they make them do. Next, they break down the first drop of ‘Tell Me Lies’ Season 3 (34:46)! They are shocked by Stephen’s worsening character, and they discuss Lucy’s terrible decision-making when it comes to the men in her life. Hosts: Juliet Litman and Callie Curry Producers: Belle Roman, Olivia Crerie, and Kate Ahearn Theme Song: Devon Renaldo Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Welcome to Bachelor Party. I'm Juliet Litman. I'm here with Callie Curry coming to us from the

0:11.7

country of Columbia. Hi, Callie. Columbia. Did you know I'm named after Columbia? Are you? Yeah,

0:18.2

Callie. Is that what Callie is for? Like, yeah parents went to Cali, Columbia, and thought it was the prettiest place they've ever been. Wow. And I want to name the daughter, Callie. Wow. Okay. That's great. So you're with your namesake. Yeah. We're here today to talk about the Traders, episodes four and five. And tell Me Lies, Season 3, 1 through 3. There's a lot to cover. And Juliet, can I tell you that I didn't know a lot of people watch Tell Me Lies? We've talked about it. It seems like there's like a niche audience, right? Yeah. Some of our listeners don't watch it. I've gotten some DMs. Yeah, we hear you. You know what? We're putting it at the end. We're going to leave with traders. We promise. Okay. Well, I've gotten a lot of DMs about Tell Me Lies this season. Well, I think it's an underserved audience. I just think that's like... I don't know if we've convinced our listeners to watch or we have new listeners or what it is. but usually people are like tell me lies I don't watch it da da da da da

1:15.0

da. listeners to watch or we have new listeners or what it is. But usually people are like,

1:12.8

tell me lies. I don't watch it. Da-da-da-da-da. Getting quite the opposite reaction from my

1:18.2

DMs anyways. Lots of people DMing me about tell me lies. It's true. That audience will be served

1:23.1

later in this podcast. We got to start with the traders. Oh, my God. I was like, this is like,

1:28.1

this is not as exciting as last week.

1:29.6

And then things really took a turn.

1:32.4

Thanks.

1:32.9

Thanks or because of Michael Rappaport

1:35.4

in the second half of episode five.

1:37.7

I mean, what a, what a, like,

1:41.8

landmark moment in a really bad way.

1:44.8

I mean, I can't remember the last time someone went on reality TV and weaponized someone being gay.

1:51.1

Like, I just was...

1:52.1

Or closeted?

1:53.1

Or closeted?

1:54.0

Specifically?

1:55.3

I was pretty shocked by that.

1:58.5

I, like, I don't like Michael Rappaport.

2:00.9

Many people don't. This is why people don't like him because he's an asshole. Yeah. That was, like, really, like, shocking moment. Not surprising, though, so I guess that's why I'm kind of just like, eh, not that surprised. Like, if he would have stayed longer, he would have said more offensive things. I know. about gay people, closeted people. Like, he's an offensive person. I know.

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