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The Victor Davis Hanson Show

The Traditionalist: The Therapeutic Screw-up

The Victor Davis Hanson Show

Victor Davis Hanson and Jack Fowler

Politcs, History, Politics, News, Society & Culture, Culture

4.97.6K Ratings

🗓️ 31 August 2021

⏱️ 37 minutes

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Listen in as VDH and Jack Fowler discuss Afghanistan and coming to terms with the worst military defeat in recent history. What should top military brass do and what will the Taliban do?

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0:00.0

Hello, ladies and gentlemen. This is the Victor Davis Tansen show, the traditionalist.

0:20.6

We're recording on Friday, August 27, 2021. This is the day following the brutal and murderous attacks in Kabul, which claimed the lives of 13 US servicemen, wounded many others, killed many Afghani citizens.

0:40.6

Today, we are going to spend most of this show talking about Afghanistan and the events of yesterday. I'm Jack Fowler, on the host, the director of the Center for Civil Society at American Philanthropic and the author of its new newsletter, Civil Thoughts.

0:57.6

There is a website for it now, civilthoughts.com. If you'd like to subscribe, please go there. The namesake of the show, of course, is Victor Davis Hanson. He's the Martin E. Leanderson, senior fellow at the Hoover Institution. And for everything else about Victor, go to victorhanson.com, his website, the blade of Perseus.

1:18.6

And there is a trove of original content there. There's a new premium service. So if you'd like to read Victor's original writings, do subscribe. Also, you'll find the link for his forthcoming book, The Dying Citizen, which is out now in about five weeks.

1:36.6

So Victor, on today's program, we are, of course, are going to talk about what's been happening in Afghanistan. And also the Supreme Court's decision to tell the CDC that no, it does not have the rights to first all eviction notices in America.

1:54.6

We're talking about Afghanistan, but first we're going to hear this important message. We're back with the traditionalist Victor. I'm just going to go down a kind of a list of things I think we could talk about related to Afghanistan. And then let's pick them up one by one.

2:20.6

We have, of course, the horrendous events of yesterday, August 26th, the bombings, we have this back padding by the Biden administration for these evacuation numbers. As if there's something wonderful going on with the scope of the numbers.

2:36.6

And then we have the evidence speech on Thursday, the 26th, your assessment of it, the media's role in the few questions that were allowed the time it took for the president to come out to actually address what had happened in Kabul.

2:52.6

And receiving lists from the United States, giving the Taliban the list of those Afghanis who worked in help with America over the last 20 years is Kamala Harris plan B. She met with reporters earlier this week.

3:06.6

I think it was before the bombing at an airport on her way to some Asia trip. And of course, she was cackling.

3:13.6

Does this, what's the political fallout for Donald Trump and maybe Mike Pompeo and Victor one last thing, while this brutality and savagetness is happening in the other side of the world, Democrats in Congress are obsessed with spending trillions.

3:33.6

I watched this long state department and then Pentagon press conferences about the evacuation. This is coming one day after 13 Americans were blown up.

3:45.6

And I'm trying to put together in my head all of the things I've heard. And there's some general themes. I think it's really important for listeners to hear this and to see if they agree or not.

3:56.6

The first is General McKinsey yesterday said when he was commenting on the attack, and I don't blame him. He did not have a lot of specific information, but he said they, the United States was working in close contact with the Taliban and they were providing security and a ring around the Carzi airport.

4:16.6

While he didn't know what caused the breakdown, he didn't want to speculate that maybe the Hakanis or the Al Qaeda or the ISIS are all of these various subordinates of radical Islamic terrorism are connected.

4:33.6

And of course they are. And then he said, and we don't have any reason right now to suspect the Taliban members. These are the people who indirectly or perhaps even more directly were responsible for 9-11 because they have the same aims as we do.

4:49.6

And by that, he delineated it. He said on August 31st, they want us to be completely out as quickly as possible. And so do we.

4:59.6

Why would they impede that or obstruct that when our agendas and goals are the same? I almost got in Iraq. I was driving over to work and I thought, wow, they don't have the same agendas.

5:11.6

Their agenda is, we want you out as quickly as possible to get you the hell out of our country so we can go to what Taliban do that is rape and kill and murder and terrorize. And we want you out very quickly. But we don't want you out without humiliation and defeat and death.

5:31.6

We want to be out very quickly from the airport, but we don't want death and humiliation destruction. So our agendas are very much different. And yet a marine general wouldn't see that.

5:44.6

And then I turn on to the State Department. And this spokesman was very confident far more confident in explaining what we're going to do after death and defeat than he ever was explaining in the middle of it.

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