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Hello, ladies and gentlemen. This is the Victor Davis Hanson Show, the traditionalist.

I'm Jack Fowler, the co-host and the director of the Center for Civil Society at American

Philanthropic today. I'll be asking some questions of the host. He's not the co-host. I'm the co-host.

The namesake of this show. I've got to wash my back. I better wash my back.

Leslie, you just have one job around here. Just answer the questions. Let me tell people who you are.

You're the Martin Ineliannes and Senior Fellow at the Huber Institution, the Wayne and Marsha

Bussk Distinguished Fellow in History at Hillsdale College. I want to encourage our listeners

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