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The TPM Show with Josh and Kate

The TPM Social Club: Breaking Containment

The TPM Show with Josh and Kate

Talking Points Memo

Republicans, Politics, Government, News, Democrats

4.81.9K Ratings

🗓️ 31 October 2025

⏱️ 56 minutes

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Summary

TPM's Josh Kovensky and Joe Ragazzo are joined by author and journalist Kelly Weill to discuss how conspiracy theories have become part of mainstream political discourse and what it means for society.

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0:53.5

Thank you so much for listening and supporting us. We couldn't do it without you. Hey, welcome to the Social Club podcast. I'm Josh Kovenski, and I'm here with Joe Ragazzo. How's it going, Joe?

1:01.8

It's going great, Josh. How are you? I'm good. We have a great episode today. We interviewed

1:06.1

an author, journalist Kelly Weil, about conspiracy theories, her favorite one, the flat earth theory,

1:12.1

which is exactly what it sounds like, and how and why they've taken over American politics.

1:16.7

I think it was a really good conversation.

1:18.7

What did you think, Joe?

1:20.2

I loved it.

1:21.2

It was really interesting.

1:22.9

First of all, I think conspiracy theories are intrinsically interesting, inherently interesting.

1:28.7

They're just very, they're good stories, which is something we get into.

1:31.6

I think what I really enjoyed most was Kelly explaining sort of the psychological

1:37.0

pull of conspiracy theories and how they're sort of filling a void that you could say is created by, you know,

1:46.4

the way society is ordered.

1:48.1

And I thought that whole, I thought that was very, very interesting.

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