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Unchained

The Top Things Investors Need to Know Before Buying Crypto Tokens

Unchained

Laura Shin

Tech News, Business News, News

4.61.3K Ratings

🗓️ 19 March 2026

⏱️ 68 minutes

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Summary

Across Protocol wants to retire its token in exchange for equity. Is the DAO model structurally broken? Thank you to our sponsor! Adaptive Security With Across Protocol proposing to retire its ACX token in favor of equity, a long-simmering question in crypto governance is finally breaking into the open: do token holders actually have meaningful ownership, or just the illusion of it?  As the regulatory environment under the new U.S. administration shifts dramatically from the Gensler era, the structures that crypto teams were forced to build may now be working against the very communities they were meant to serve.  Ryan Yi, founder of Onchain Group, and Felipe Montealegre, co-founder and CIO of Theia, have studied these incentive structures closely, and what they have found is uncomfortable. From PumpFun's suppressed valuation to the perverse incentives baked into token buyouts, this conversation examines whether the DAO model was ever built to last, and what governance actually needs to look like if crypto is going to compete with global finance. Guests: ⁠⁠⁠⁠Ryan Yi, Founder of Onchain Group ⁠⁠⁠⁠Felipe Montealegre, Co-Founder & Chief Investment Officer at Theia Links: Read our Aave deep dive here Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Hi, everyone. Welcome to Unchained. You're an O'Hae resource for all things crypto. I'm your host, Laura Shin.

0:36.3

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0:38.3

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0:42.0

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0:45.7

assets discussed on the show. For more disclosures, visit Unchained Crypto.com.

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1:10.8

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1:32.4

slash bits and bits. Today's topic is tokens versus equity in Dow's. Here to discuss are Ryan Yee, founder

1:42.6

at OnChane Group and Fipe, Felipe Montelegray, co-founder and chief investment officer at Thea. Welcome, Ryan and Felipe.

1:52.0

Thank you for all right.

1:54.0

So we're going to be discussing a topic that just keeps coming up again and again in crypto nowadays, and that's this tension

2:01.4

between tokens and equity. But before we dive into the details around the across token protocol,

2:08.2

which is, or the across token, which is the most recent news that concerns this topic,

2:13.0

we're just going to have each of you describe your background and how you came to spend a lot

2:16.6

of time thinking about this issue.

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