This is the BBC.

I've been a member of the Labour Party for over 40 years.

You do feel a strong loyalty in attachment.

But at the same time, it's a different party. The question is, can it be taken back?

It's not often that an answer makes me pause,

but that answer from Tony Blair did.

I knew that he and his supporters, those who look up to him,

have been contemplating whether they've got a life in the Labour Party.

What I've not heard him do before is reflect on it in public, on tape.

There's lots of people associated with me who feel that Labour Party's lost,

that the game's over.

You know, I'm kind of hoping they're not right.

Welcome to Political Thinking.

We'll hear more, a lot more from Tony Blair in just a few minutes' time.

If you're new to the podcast, it's a chance for me to have a long conversation

with someone who shapes political events,

the sort of thing you've rarely got the time to do on TV or on radio.

And it's a chance for me to give a reflection or two

on what's really going on in the world politics.

And what's going on?

What's still going on is those rouse that have been going on for so long,

Brexit dividing the Tory Party, anti-Semitism dividing the Labour Party.

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