Do you think that's kind of villainous is people being fake?

There's like secret villains.

They're actually the ones that are evil.

I don't know if going on any kind of reality show is a little bit healthy

because I think they really want you to like go crazy.

Yeah, kill them with content and kindness.

Bad, really bad.

Stood up.

Hey everyone, welcome to another episode of everybody loves Tom today our guest is

Francesca Barago from too hot to handle the villain right a known villain from too hot to handle and I guess that's my title yeah yeah I was looking that you

You cost people a lot of money on that show

Right yes technically but long that show

had more viewers they made more money afterwards so it was worth it for everyone

involved including myself oh I mean I know I'm sure producers loved you.

Yeah.

Tom, don't forget, you know, Love is Blind, I know just a few episodes,

but the perfect match.

Also, also just announced Varieties varieties one of 40 most influential women on reality TV or was it powerful?

I think it was both.

Wow. Did that can I ask you? I know we got a lot to talk about but did that

catch you off guard or we were like, yeah, that's right, period.

I think like after everything I've been through it kind of like made sense.

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