The Titan, the Sea, and What We See

Now & Then

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History, Society & Culture, News Commentary, News

4.9 • 3.7K Ratings

🗓️ 12 July 2023

⏱️ 45 minutes

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Summary

Heather and Joanne compare the national response to the implosion of the Titan submersible to two high-profile historical sea calamities: the 1813 ocean vanishing of Theodosia Burr and the 1872 Mary Celeste “ghost ship” drama. How do Americans react to tragedies on the high seas? What can these mysterious and painful incidents tell us about our national anxieties and values? How have Heather and Joanne processed sea dangers in their own lives? They share their experience in a special “Backstage” segment of the podcast. Become a member of CAFE Insider and get access to Backstage episodes and other exclusive content. For a limited time, you can get 40% off the initial annual membership price with discount code JUSTICE. Head to cafe.com/history to learn more and join. For references & supplemental materials, head to: cafe.com/now-and-then/the-titan-the-sea-and-what-we-see/ Now & Then is presented by CAFE and the Vox Media Podcast Network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	Support for the show comes from Into the Mix, a Ben and Jerry's podcast about joy and justice produced with Fox Creative.
0:07.0	Thousands of Afghans were forced to flee their homes and fear for their lives,
0:11.0	and the Taliban took control of Afghanistan in 2021.
0:14.0	The UK government pledged to take in 20,000 of them as refugees,
0:18.0	but in the first year, only 22 Afghans have been approved for asylum in the UK.
0:23.0	So what happened?
0:25.0	And what does this mean for the tens of thousands of people left behind?
0:28.0	Hear that story on the latest episode of Into the Mix.
0:32.0	Subscribe now.
0:58.0	From Cafe and the Vox Media Podcast Network, this is now and then.
1:29.0	And I'm Joanne Freeman.
1:31.0	Today we're going to talk about a topic, the reason for which we're talking about it will become apparent as soon as I say what it is.
1:39.0	We want to talk about disappearances on the high seas.
1:44.0	Now, obviously this is related to a story that really was all over the press,
1:49.0	and that's an understatement recently, and that is the disappearance of the submersible, the Titan,
1:56.0	which ultimately was found to have imploded.
1:59.0	They found remains of the ship on the floor of the sea,
2:03.0	and it was not a mystery any longer.
2:05.0	But for those handful of days when it was unknown what was happening,
2:09.0	the press coverage was over the top.
2:12.0	And what fascinated us about it, and it's part of what we want to explore today,
2:16.0	is the ways in which the press coverage said a lot more about us than it actually did about the submersible, the Titan.
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