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Deadline: White House

“The tip of the spear”

Deadline: White House

MSNBC

News, Donald Trump, Daily News, The White House, Nicolle Wallace, Politics, Nbc News, Washington Dc, Msnbc, Government

4.66K Ratings

🗓️ 4 May 2023

⏱️ 97 minutes

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Summary

Nicolle Wallace discusses the four members of the Proud Boys found guilty for seditious conspiracy in the January 6th insurrection, the implications that verdict has in Special Counsel Jack Smith’s investigation into the former president’s role, new revelations in Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas’s relationship with billionaire Harlan Crow, updates from the courtroom as E. Jean Carroll rests her case in her civil lawsuit, threats to democracy in a Democratic leaning county in Texas, and more. Joined by: Carol Leonnig, Marcus Childress, Andrew Weissmann, Ayman Mohyeldin, Brian Fallon, Kim Atkins-Stohr, Barbara McQuade, Matt Dowd and Lisa Rubin.

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0:00.0

Hi, everyone. It's 4 o'clock in New York. Any minute now, a Trinity General Merit Garland

0:11.3

is expected to hold a news conference on the Justice Department's big winning court

0:15.7

today in its January 6 investigation. More than 2 and a half years since the disgraced

0:20.8

ex-president told them to quote, stand back and stand by, a call that helped to galvanize

0:26.6

the Proud Boys to serve as the tip of the spear of the mob that stormed the US Capitol

0:31.4

months later. Four members of the Proud Boys, including the group's leader in Riketaria,

0:36.6

were convicted today of seditious conspiracy. It is a rarely used, often difficult to prove

0:43.1

and serious charge that dates back to the Civil War. A fifth member, Dominic Pizzola,

0:48.8

was acquitted of seditious conspiracy, but he has been convicted on other very serious

0:54.2

charges, including obstruction of an official proceeding and assaulting an officer.

0:59.3

But today's verdict means that so far 14 people, including members of another far-right

1:04.3

group, the oath keepers, have either pleaded guilty or been found guilty of conspiring and

1:10.0

plotting a violent overthrow of the United States government. This victory by the Justice

1:15.5

Department, while it is a milestone, in the massive and hugely consequential federal

1:20.7

investigation into that plot to overturn an election and overturn democracy on January

1:27.0

6, only underscores questions about holding accountable the man, who is January 6, Committee

1:33.4

Vice Chair Liz Cheney, so memorably puts it, quote, sum in the mob, assemble the mob,

1:39.9

and lit the flame of this attack. Of course, we're talking about the disgraced ex-president

1:44.6

himself. As a Washington Post reports, over nearly 15 weeks of trial, prosecutors allege

1:50.5

that the proud boys on trial saw themselves as Trump's army, inspired by his directive

1:56.4

to stand by during a September 2020 presidential debate, and mobilized by his December 2020 call

2:04.1

for a wild protest when Congress met to certify the election. Prosecutors said the men sought

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