I got the call about the lawsuit at the funniest possible time. I was on vacation and I was at a bird sanctuary.

What were you doing at a bird sanctuary?

You know, they have these places where you can like go see like parrots and you know two cans and...

Yeah, they're called zoos.

This is like a small specific sanctuary for wounded birds.

Wait, and they're all wounded too?

Well, some of them are wounded, yes.

So they bring them in, they rehabilitate them,

to give you these little cups of seeds and you

like hold the cups and then the birds come and land on you and eat the seeds out of

your cup. And was that how you got bird flu this holiday season? Yes, so I'm walking around.

I have like two parrots and like another bird on me.

I'm sitting there holding this cup and I like looked down on my watch and it's like a notification that's like please call me the New York Times is suing

open up.

Oh boy.

Oh my gosh. I'm Kevin Rousa,

I'm Kevin Rousa,

a tech columnist to the New York Times.

I'm Casey Newton from Platformer.

And this is Hard Fork.

This week, the New York Times is suing Open AI.

We'll tell you what's at stake.

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