Lemonada.

This is Sarah Stewart-Holland.

This is Beth Silvers.

You're listening to Pantsu Politics,

where we take a different approach to the news.

Thank you so much for joining us today. We probably sound a little different. Again, we are together in person, this time in a lovely farmhouse where we're having a team retreat.

Elise, our managing director, Maggie, our director of community engagement are here with us. The four of us are together thinking deep thoughts about who and how to be in 2025 and

beyond. We had the foresight before the election to know that would be a before and after moment for us.

And so we were thinking about the after now. And it's really, it's really great for us because I think

we're all feeling like all of you, some burnout, some depletions, some what do I want to do now?

And so this is a chance for us to get our thoughts together. It does mean that our sound is a little

echoy. Thank you to Studio D, who does our sound production for trying to clean that up. And to all of

you for your patience. And big thanks to listener Kim and John and Cindy, who are allowing us to use this gorgeous space.

Today, we are going to talk some more about the shape of the Trump administration and how we are

personally responding to some of these picks and how we would like to see others respond to them.

And then outside of politics in what I think is a really deep conversation, surprisingly so,

we're going to discuss the sexiest man alive and whether rankings like that are useful

anymore. Before we dive in, we wanted to remind you that our team put together a Pantsuit

Politics listener gift guide. This is a gift guide for people who love pantsu politics. Okay. So if you're just a

big fan and want to buy yourself some stuff, that is also allowed. But if you're looking for

gifts for the pantsy politics fan in your life, premium gift subscriptions, merch, books, cameos,

lots to choose from for yourself or another listener in your life. Send it to your loved ones so they know what to get you. And if you're going to do a cameo, it must be ordered by Thursday, December 19th,

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