Yes, yes, welcome back to the Tim McCurnen show with guests from the

home loan expert.com studios.

Thank you live studio audience of action Jackson.

Exciting times.

We are living in exciting times.

You know, this podcast was put on the map as I speak as if the podcast is on the map

because of our interviews and then the pandemic happened Jackson.

And so I couldn't do interviews in person.

But you know what's happened since I did my last interview for the podcast?

It's one word and it starts with a Z.

Oh, zoom.

That's right.

The game has changed.

Big time.

And I think what that's going to allow us to do is to do more interviews as opposed to asking

people to come into the studio.

Now I still like people coming to the studio but it's just not going to happen like it did.

It was nuts that we got it for as many years as we did.

We had three years of it.

So when Joe Buck, our guest today, presented by Tellamore, do

joined us and we were texting about coming on.

I didn't even bother asking about coming to the studio.

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