The TikTok ban, and what comes next

The Vergecast

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🗓️ 14 January 2025

⏱️ 88 minutes

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Summary

In five days, TikTok as we know it could be finished in the US. The Verge's Lauren Feiner joins the show to discuss last week's Supreme Court arguments over the ban, why things don't look good for TikTok, and what's likely to happen in the next five days. After that, Kickstarter CEO Everette Taylor talks about the state of the gadget inventor, and what it means to be part of the creator economy in 2025. Finally, we answer a question from the Vergecast Hotline about magic-link logins, and why passwords remain such a disaster. Further reading: TikTok’s last stand: Supreme Court weighs ban as deadline looms TikTok still seems headed for a ban after its Supreme Court arguments What it will take for TikTok to survive in the US Kickstarter is adding the ability to collect money indefinitely Kickstarter’s CEO on why he doesn’t think the company will only do crowdfunding forever Passkeys might really kill passwords Email us at [email protected] or call us at 866-VERGE11, we love hearing from you. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	Welcome to the Vergecast, the flagship podcast of crowdfunded socks.
0:07.9	I'm your friend David Pierce, and it is 5.30 in the morning, and I am in the Charlotte,
0:12.9	North Carolina airport on my way home from CES. It's really fun CES this year, actually.
0:17.2	It wasn't like the newsiest or splashiest CES of all time, but AI was everywhere,
0:22.4	even though no one knows what to do with AI. There were tons of wearables. The health tech
0:27.2	I actually thought was really interesting. Pool robots, for some reason, were absolutely
0:32.1	everywhere. I don't know how much interesting technology there is in the pool robot space.
0:37.1	If you're into that, let me know.
0:38.5	I'd love to hear it, but they were absolutely everywhere.
0:41.4	Super fun show.
0:42.4	And by the way, thank you to everybody who came out to our live Vergecasts at CES.
0:47.1	It was super fun just to get to hang out with all of you and talk about tech and CES and
0:51.2	all of our feelings about everything.
0:52.5	We're going to do more shows like that, too.
0:54.4	So if you miss this one, keep an eye out because we want to do more live stuff.
0:58.2	It's just fun getting to do this with all of you guys.
1:00.8	For now, we have some CES adjacent stuff to talk about, I would say.
1:06.2	We're going to do two things on today's show.
1:08.3	First, we're going to talk to Lauren Feiner about the TikTok
1:10.9	band and the looming changes coming at meta and basically the huge social landscape
1:18.4	change that feels like it's coming potentially like in the next few days and weeks. It's going to be
1:24.1	a really interesting moment in this space and we're going to talk about it. Then I'm going to talk to Everett Taylor, who's the CEO of Kickstarter. Kickstarter was at CES
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