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Conversations with Coleman

The Tides of American Politics with David Shor (Ep.19)

Conversations with Coleman

The Free Press

Philosophy, Society & Culture

4.5614 Ratings

🗓️ 3 December 2020

⏱️ 71 minutes

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Summary

A special thank you to Ground News for supporting this week's episode. Download the Ground News app for free at https://check.ground.news/ColemanHughes to join the fight against media bias For exclusive member-only content become a CwC subscriber via https://colemanhughes.org/ Today’s guest is David Shor, a political data scientist. David worked for the Obama campaign and was described in New York Magazine as “Obama’s in-house Nate Silver”. You may know David’s name because he was fired in June, over a tweet that was widely viewed as innocent. The tweet cited research showing that riots, unlike non-violent protests, tend to move voters to the right. Although Coleman wanted to talk to David about the circumstances of his firing, due to legal reasons, David can’t talk about it publicly. This episode focuses on the basics of polling and why the polls under predicted Trump’s performance in both 2016 and 2020. Coleman also talked about David’s skepticism of the so-called ‘Shy Trump Voter Effect’, the problem of non-response bias, and what to make of the growing cultural divide between college-educated and non-college-educated voters. Coleman had a very productive disagreement about the so-called racial resentment scales, used as a tool to understand why people voted for Trump and much more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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1:02.0

My guest today is David Shore.

1:05.1

David Shore is a political data scientist.

1:08.2

He worked for the Obama campaign and was described in New York magazine as

1:12.5

Obama's in-house Nate Silver. You may know David's name because he was fired in June over a

1:19.9

tweet that was widely viewed as innocent. The tweet cited research showing that riots, unlike nonviolent protests, tend to move voters to the right.

1:31.3

I wanted to talk to David about the circumstances of his firing, but for legal reasons,

1:37.5

David can't talk about it publicly. Fortunately, he is an extremely interesting person outside

1:43.1

of his cancellation, and he's the

1:45.7

perfect person to talk to about the lessons of the 2020 election.

1:50.5

David was really a joy to talk to and a fountain of information, and I recommend you all

1:55.8

follow him on Twitter.

1:57.7

We talk about the basics of polling.

2:00.6

We talk about why the polls underpredicted Trump's

2:03.5

performance in both 2016 and 2020. We talk about David's skepticism of the so-called shy Trump voter

2:11.1

effect, used as a tool to understand why people voted for Trump. We talk about why Trump's share of the minority vote

2:20.7

increased between 2016 and 2020. We talk about what the 2020 election has done to the idea

2:28.6

that demography is destiny. We talk about the implications of getting rid of the electoral college, the surprising

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