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Death, Sex & Money

The Thrills and Heartbreaks of Being a Funk Rock Pioneer

Death, Sex & Money

Slate Audio

Careers, Sexuality, Business, Health & Fitness, Relationships, Society & Culture

4.67.7K Ratings

🗓️ 28 April 2026

⏱️ 55 minutes

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Summary

When musician Chris Dowd was 19, shortly after graduating from high school, his band Fishbone got signed to Columbia Records. The group was made up of Black teenagers in Los Angeles, who combined several musical genres—funk, punk, ska, metal, reggae—into a new exciting sound in the late 70’s. They influenced countless other bands but struggled to find lasting commercial success.

This week on the show, Chris talks to Anna Sale about being a teenage rock pioneer who stepped away from the group in 1994. He also discusses his close friendship with the late Jeff Buckley, his trouble with alcoholism after Jeff's death, and what it's been like to rejoin Fishbone and go on tour. 


Fishbone songs featured in this episode:

Skankin’ to the Beat

Ugly

Adolescent Regressive Behavior

Party at Ground Zero 

Cubicle

Love is Love

Last Call in America (feat. George Clinton) 

Housework


Watch Fishbone’s 1991 performance on SNL: https://www.dailymotion.com/video/xl7e88 

This episode was produced by Cameron Drews and Daisy Rosario. 

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If you’re new to the show, welcome. We’re so glad you’re here. Find us and follow us on Instagram and you can find Anna’s newsletter at annasale.substack.com. Our email address, where you can reach us with voice memos, pep talks, questions, critiques, is deathsexmoney@slate.com. 


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0:00.0

If you're someone who plays music or just loves music, you probably know that in the music business, talent, and success are different things.

0:10.6

There are artists who hit that special alchemy of creating a new sound and achieving global stardom.

0:18.7

And then there are the artists who are around them in the same artistic stew, the same scenes,

0:24.5

but didn't catch the same waves of commercial success.

0:28.5

Like the band Fishbone.

0:41.4

Fishbone started in the black teenagers jamming in

0:45.2

in keyboardist Chris Dowd's living room

0:47.2

in South Central L.A., riffing on a mix

0:50.5

of musical influences.

0:52.4

Reggae, R&B, punk, gospel, new wave, rock.

0:57.0

Fishbone came up alongside the Red Hot Chili Peppers and Jane's Addiction as metal and punk were

1:02.8

mashing together into the sound that would become known as alternative rock.

1:07.9

But they were also playing shows with hip-hop acts like Run DMC while paying homage to the funk

1:13.7

bands that had come before them. Fishbone was hard to pin down, but they were tight, inventive,

1:21.2

and fun.

1:27.1

This week on the show, I talk with Fishbone member Chris Dowd about getting signed to Columbia Records right out of high school, the constant touring that followed.

1:39.3

The still legendary S&L performance they did.

1:42.9

If you've never seen it, pause this and watch it now if you can.

1:45.8

There's a link in our show notes. And Chris and I talk about being in a band that never quite

1:51.6

broke through commercially, while so many bands and artists around them did. Like Jeff Buckley,

1:57.8

the late musician, who was Chris's best friend for many years

2:01.8

and crashed in Chris's apartment when Jeff was still building the confidence to make his own music.

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