The Three Isaiahs: The Heart of Prophecy with Cassidy Hall

Everything Belongs: Living the Teachings of Richard Rohr Forward

Center for Action and Contemplation

Religion & Spirituality, Christianity

4.8 • 723 Ratings

🗓️ 3 October 2025

⏱️ 86 minutes

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In this episode of Everything Belongs, we explore Chapter 8 of Richard Rohr’s The Tears of Things. Our hosts consider how the book of Isaiah embodies Fr. Richard’s wisdom pattern of order, disorder, and reorder — and how prophecy moves us from anger to lamentation to expansive love. Later, you’ll hear from author Cassidy Hall for a conversation about women’s often-erased voices, queerness as a contemplative lens, and prophets on the margins. Resources: Learn more about Cassidy Hall here. Grab a copy of The Tears of Things ⁠⁠⁠here⁠⁠⁠. To learn more about The Tears of Things and additional offerings, including the trailer, a FREE Reader's Guide, and more, visit ⁠⁠⁠thetearsofthings.com

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0:00.0	You're listening to a podcast by the Center for Action and Contemplation.
0:04.0	To learn more, visit cac.org.
0:08.1	Welcome back to the Everything Belongs podcast with Father Richard Roar.
0:13.1	Each season, we've explored one of Richard's books.
0:17.4	Each episode, we travel over to Richard's house to discuss a chapter with him, and then we're
0:21.4	joined by a guest who helps us live the teachings forward to think about Richard's teachings
0:26.5	in new ways and ask new questions in a rapidly changing world. But this season has been
0:32.6	extra special because we've been exploring Richard's brand new book, The Tears of Things.
0:38.8	Now, what's so great about this podcast is that you don't actually have to read the book
0:43.6	to follow along with us. Each episode of this podcast is a self-contained treasure chest of
0:50.7	wisdom. So if you're joining us for the first time, don't feel like you need to go back
0:55.0	and start the podcast from the beginning or pick up the book. Jump in. And for those of you who've
0:59.8	been with us in the book and in the journey, thank you so much. In this episode especially, we get
1:07.4	a chance to look back on the journey we've taken as we look at chapter 8,
1:12.3	the three Isaiah's, the heart of prophecy. In this chapter, Richard suggests that the book of
1:18.9	Isaiah takes us all the way through the journey he describes in the tears of things, from anger
1:24.8	to sadness to love, all the way through the journey that he's described
1:28.7	throughout his entire career as us moving from a place of order to disorder to reorder. And
1:34.9	Richard reveals how this magnificent prophetic book of Isaiah gives us such a keen insight
1:41.6	into what it means to let ourselves go through this process and to let our hearts
1:47.2	consistently be broken open by love. What comes out in this chapter and in the two conversations
1:52.7	that follow is that in life we so often create containers to help us make sense of the world.
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