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Why It Matters

The Three Internets

Why It Matters

Council on Foreign Relations

News

4.2876 Ratings

🗓️ 7 December 2022

⏱️ 39 minutes

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Summary

For years, the world thought of the internet as a borderless zone that brought people from around the world together. But as governments pursue very different regulatory paths, the monolithic internet is breaking apart. Now, where there had been one, there are at least three internets: one led by the United States, one by China, and one by the European Union.   Featured Guests: Anu Bradford (Henry L. Moses Professor of Law and International Organization, Columbia Law School) Adam Segal (Ira A. Lipman Chair in Emerging Technologies and National Security & Director of Digital and Cyberspace Policy Program, Council on Foreign Relations) Tarah Wheeler (Senior Fellow for Global Cyber Policy, Council on Foreign Relations) For an episode transcript and show notes, visit us at https://www.cfr.org/podcasts/three-internets

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0:00.0

It spans the globe like a super highway. It is called Internet.

0:09.0

I think we're actually on the cusp of something exhilarating and terrifying.

0:14.0

It's just a tool though, isn't it?

0:16.0

No, it's not.

0:17.0

No, it's an alien life form.

0:19.0

It's going to get woven into the daily fabric of our lives. It'll be just like using a

0:23.9

telephone, it'll be like using your car on the roads. We take it for granted. If I want to

0:28.7

talk to somebody on the far side of the world, it'll be just as natural as me

0:31.7

talking to you now. The internet. What was once a

0:36.0

marvel is now something our modern world depends on for well everything. It allows us access, access to crucial information, not so crucial

0:46.6

information, and access to each other. But not everyone's access is created equally.

0:53.0

In fact, it may no longer be accurate to think of the Internet as a single entity.

0:59.0

That's because around the world different governments have taken very different

1:07.2

approaches to regulating the internet, shaping what their citizens can see and

1:11.9

say online

1:13.2

and how their private data is tracked.

1:15.8

And this has led to a splintering.

1:18.4

The world now has three primary internets,

1:21.8

one led by the United States, one led by China, and one led by the

1:26.6

European Union.

1:28.1

And if things keep going as they are, we could be headed toward an even more divided digital world.

1:34.2

My name is Gabriel Sierra, and this is why it matters.

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