We are live on Inside the Hive. I am your host Nick Billton

And I'm John Kelly, Enter the Hive, and Nick's friend.

Not John Kelly, the guy who runs the White House, right? No, we get confused for each other all the time and as I say frequently my father who is also a John F Kelly was born in Boston like 15 minutes away at around the

exact same time. If nothing else it's just a sign that if you're from Boston and

your Irish your name is probably going to be John Kelly.

My condolences.

So we're going to jump in really quick to my guest, but I just wanted to give you a little bit

of a synopsis of what we talked about today.

I had this guy Jeff Arilowski on.

He's a filmmaker.

He was nominated for, he was on the short list for an Oscar for a documentary he just did called

Chasing Carl and I thought that this week's podcast was going to be kind of like a

nice grounded conversation in climate change and it turned into a terrifying

conversation about the sixth extinction where we may be like at the beginning of

the end for humanity.

So it was kind of terrifying.

But, you know, it's a really interesting conversation.

So I'm excited.

Oh, I can't wait to hear, Nick.

I've always pondered how our entire species is going to go extinct.

So this is very much of my mind.

It's fascinating.

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