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Yay, happy dating detectives Monday.

I'm so excited for this episode.

I am too because I was actually in L.A. recording this in person. And it's really amazing to be with Hannah and Molly and have the guests in person.

It's like if that's the best for me.

We get to also tell you who this person is because she has a book out. Her name is Meredith Beardmore. She's a therapist. I had nothing right in. I didn't even do like our niceties. I was like, guys, we have to talk about her. She's so cool. Literally, we walked it. We were like, she's iconic. and she wrote a book called the Plan B Chronicles about the story she's about to tell us. Obviously. And it's not exactly what you think. Like, it's way more than, like the title does not any indication. And it's going to be on our book club on our Patreon. Right. Not this month, but soon, like after this, we'll do it. And that way you guys have time to order it. And we really hope that you do. I'm sure you will. Right. Not this month, but soon, like after this, we'll do it. And that way, you guys have time to order it. And we really hope that you do. I'm sure you will. Yeah, especially after hearing this story, you're going to want to read her book. And I think this is just going to be a great episode. I want to tell everybody a little bit about what to expect and more about her. We'll tell you more about where you can find her later. She also has a

YouTube channel called Mend With Mare, where she takes a therapist point of view and analyzes

lyrics of songs, and it's really fun. She just did some of Lily Allen's new album, which I think is

dating detectives coded to a T. A hundred percent. I really, I've always like Lilyillian. I am thrilled about this. Yeah. We can do as, maybe we do a full Patreon episode about Lily Allen's new album. But you have to go listen to it because it's really cool. Oh my gosh. Yeah. She was dogfished hard. And okay, so sorry, we'll stay on task. Meredith is a therapist. And I think that's awesome because not only does she get to talk about her story through that lens, but it's also just such a good reminder that this can happen to everybody. Even a therapist, it's so interesting because you think like even my experience as a PI, people say, oh, you're a PI. Oh, can you tell me this? And I'm like, I don't, can I have some more

information, please? It's the same thing with a therapist. You would think a therapist knows exactly

what to look for. And they know if they're being dogfish and nope, it can happen to anyone. And that's a good example of why people say, oh, I felt so stupid. Y'all, it's not about you being stupid. You are never stupid.

It can happen to anyone.

Because our feelings and our like personality is

stronger than most feelings. I think she's a caretaker at heart. And you could see that as she,

like especially being a professional and mental health, you want to be able to be there for your

partner and maybe even have more shame if it doesn't work out.

So I will get into that.

This is, you said, a different kind of dogfish as well because her husband definitely falls into addiction.

And I think we tried to do a good job of like holding, holding space, as Cynthia

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