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Hello, you are listening to the Homebrewd Christianity Podcast, where we bring you the best ingredients so you can brew your own faith.

We don't want to tell you what to think, what to believe, but we would like you to have some ingredients so that you think critically when it comes out tasty.

Hence, you brew it yourself.

And today, in honor of the passing of Bulfurt-Pembourg, one of the 20th century's greatest theologians, I'm talking with Philip Clayton, Professor of Theology, at Claremont School of Theology.

He is a Ponembourg student, and we do Ponenberg for like an hour and ten minutes.

It was one of the most fun conversations.

I always love talking to Philip.

He is a brilliant person, just like his mentor, Ponenberg.

And today we talk about Ponenberg, and we just nerd out all proleptically.

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