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This is the Politics and More podcast. I'm David Remnick.

Russell Moore is a leading thinker in the evangelical Christian movement.

And until recently, he held a key position in the Southern Baptist Convention.

But Reverend Moore left the SBC last year after taking a firm stance opposing racism in the church and criticizing its response to sexual abuse allegations.

Now, although he's not a progressive or a liberal in our understanding, Moore has repeatedly

denounced

the politics of Christian nationalism. In one of his recent editorials, he referred to Christian

nationalism as liberation theology for white people. Russell Moore is the editor of Christianity

today. Now, I'd like to really begin by asking you about the church that you grew up in,

in Mississippi, Will Market Baptist Church.

Tell us a little bit about that church that you were raised to.

Well, that church was the center of my identity because I was there all the time.

It was the rhythm of the week. It was the rhythm of the year.

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