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The administration's concerns are not frivolous.

Anthropic appears to have made real mistakes. A Washington Post report suggested that it expanded access to mythos

beyond what officials believed had been approved

and moved too slowly in responding to concerns about who was being allowed to use it.

Intelligence agencies reportedly favored a tougher approach.

But that is precisely why process matters.

When a technology becomes this consequential, decisions cannot be made ad hoc by whatever faction wins a weekend bureaucratic battle, which might then get reversed the next weekend.

So that is Fried Zakaria talking about what Anthropics doing is one of the major AI companies that's killing in a good way in a stock market?

But people are getting worried that some of these guys are going to combine.

And also that some of these evolutions are getting smarter than man, like Mythos, is smarter and can think on its own.

And it's scaring a lot of people, including

possibly my next guest. Nate Sores is president of the Machine Intelligence Research Institute,

and they are researcher and bestselling author of the book. If anyone builds it, everyone dies.

Nate, are you worried about where we're heading right now when it comes to AI in these companies?

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