The Tentacles of 'The Big Lie': With Jonathan Lemire

The Michael Steele Podcast

The Bulwark

Politics, Government, History, News

4.8 • 3.1K Ratings

🗓️ 27 July 2022

⏱️ 52 minutes

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Summary

Jonathan Lemire joins The Michael Steele Podcast to discuss his new book, "The Big Lie: Election Chaos, Political Opportunism, and the State of American Politics After 2020." The pair discuss the role the media played in perpetuating Trump's lies, how Trump's deceit led to January 6th and how the 2024 election might shape out with Trump as a candidate.

Check out the book here: https://static.macmillan.com/static/fib/the-big-lie/

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0:30.8	Hey, it's Michael Steele here and I'm excited to welcome you to the Michael Steele podcast today because we've got Jonathan Lamir with us.
0:37.8	He is the White House Bureau Chief at Politico, host of MSNBC's Way Too Early.
0:42.8	And the author of the new book, The Big Lie, election chaos, political opportunism and the state of American politics after 2020.
0:51.8	The book says, The Big Lie is a probing and illuminating analysis of the current state of American politics and it is.
1:01.6	But it's so much more than that.
1:04.0	It really gets into and Jonathan does a great job, journalistically, of putting us in the conversations, putting us in the room, if you will, at various times.
1:17.2	So we can better understand not just the nature of the big lie, but why the big lie and all of the lies that the Trump administration told and Trump himself perpetuated were so important to Donald Trump.
1:34.4	We're going to get into that in a whole lot more with Jonathan Lamir right after this.
1:39.6	What the hell? You're kidding me! I'm a real idiot! But look at this thing! You're kidding me!
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2:10.0	Well, everybody, welcome again to the Michael Still podcast and we got the author of The Big Lie.
2:25.6	Jonathan Lamir is in the house. I'm so excited for this brother. I've watched Jonathan emerge in his role as a journalist over the last few years in a fantastic way.
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